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The Philosopher CEO | Clay Co-Founder Kareem Amin

Long Strange Trip: CEO to CEO with Brian Halligan · · 1:09:28

Kareem Amin recalls imagining how he would share his retreat experiences at home—and losing attention to the place he was in. He describes being grateful for boredom as an experience of being present, and says carrying that awareness into daily life can help him make less rushed decisions. He argues that a company should align what it actually does, what its founders want it to do, and what customers value.

Kareem Amin
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The Philosopher CEO | Clay Co-Founder Kareem Amin
Long Strange Trip: CEO to CEO with Brian Halligan

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Toma de decisiones

Anticipating the future can distract from the present

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And then on day seven out of ten, I was like, “Oh, I can’t wait to go back home and tell everybody about all these things that I realized.”
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But I’ll give you an insight that I had about living in the future. I was on this silent retreat and, like, you know, crazy things happened and I had these big realizations. And I was just imagining it and just completely letting go of the place that I was at. And then I realized every time you’re picturing the future or living in the future, you’re just accelerating your own time that you’ve got here and you’re accelerating towards death. So to me, that kind of feels like the Freudian death wish where you’re just imagining something that is not here, that is going to happen in the future, and you’re always there. And then I instantly kind of had this felt experience of …

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Toma de decisiones

Appreciating boredom can support less rushed decisions

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But what I experienced then was a felt experience of what it’s like to actually be there, and then being really grateful for the boredom, where I’m like, oh wow, I’m so grateful to be bored because I’m here.
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Yeah, there’s a lot of CEOs that have the—or come to these thoughts at different moments. I think it just depends when do they come to it, by the way. Sometimes people come to it after they sell their company. Or, you know, you have a lot of star athletes or Olympic athletes who are like, after they’re done, they come back and recognize this. But I do think a lot of people actually have some forms of these thoughts. It doesn’t mean you’re—it means you have clarity of mind for the ambition, for the future thinking. And then I try to carry that with me. I think it actually leads you to make better decisions that are less rushed, less confused about, like, the nature of what’s happening.

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Toma de decisiones

Align company activity with customer value

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Anyway, I think you should be really clear about what your company actually is doing versus what you want it to do or think that it should do versus what your customers actually are getting value from.
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And those things need to align.

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