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THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION

Jensen Huang on AI agent safety, leadership and trust

Lex Fridman Podcast · · 2:25:59

In this interview with Lex Fridman, Jensen Huang discusses constraints on AI agents, reasoning through problems with colleagues, and his default trust in other people.

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AI safety

Giving agentic systems only two of three capabilities at once

Original excerpt

We give you two out of three rights. Agentic systems can access sensitive information, it can execute code, and it can communicate externally. We could keep things safe if we gave you two out of those three capabilities at any time, but not all three.
Context

They install super easy. It makes sure that it’s secure. So you eloquently explained how we have a long history of blockers that we thought were going to be blockers, and we overcame them. But now looking into the future, what do you think might be the blockers now that it’s clear that agents will be everywhere? So it’s obviously we’re going to need compute. So what is going to be the blocker for that scaling?

Decision making

Reasoning aloud lets colleagues challenge intermediate steps

Original excerpt

The nice thing about reasoning through things and letting people interact with it is that they don’t have to disagree with your outcome. They can disagree with your reasoning steps. And they could pull me in different directions, and then we can reason forward.
Context

And when I’m wrong—when I’m wrong or it didn’t turn out that way or, you know, I mean, most of the things that I say outside I’m fairly certain about. And the reason for that is because it’s gonna impact somebody else and I want to be quite concerned about that and quite circumspect about that. For stuff that I’m reasoning about inside a meeting, you know, a lot of things could turn out differently. And so, but it doesn’t ever stop me from reasoning. The way that I manage and lead, I’m constantly reasoning in front of people. And even when I’m talking to you, you can kind of see me reasoning through things. And I want to make sure that you understand what I’m saying not because I told you- Yeah, you have this way about you of … When you’re explaining stuff, I can feel you actually reasoning on the spot about it with a constant open-mindedness where you could … I could feel like I could steer your thinking. And that’s a—that’s really beautiful that you’ve been able to maintain that after so many years of success, and pain. I think sometimes pain closes you down a bit. And I think to maintain-

Decision making

Starting from trust despite sometimes being taken advantage of

Original excerpt

I start with always that people want to do good. People want to help others. And vastly, I am proven right. Constantly proven right. And often it exceeds my expectations.
Context

Well, from a fan perspective, given your extremely enormous positive impact on civilization, of course, I hope you keep going. But also it’s just fun to watch what NVIDIA is doing, you know. It’s just the rate of innovation. And I’m a huge fan of engineering. There’s so much incredible engineering continuously being done by NVIDIA. It’s just fun to watch. It’s a celebration of humanity, a celebration of great builders, a celebration of great engineering. So, it represents something special. So I hope you and NVIDIA keep going. What gives you hope about this whole thing we got going on, about humanity, about the future of humanity? When you look out, when you think about the future quite a bit, when you look out 10, 20, 50, 100 years from now, what gives you hope? And that there’s so many things that we wanna solve. There’s so many problems we wanna solve. There’s so many things that we wanna build. There’s so many good things that we wanna do that are now within our reach, and within the reach of my lifetime. You just can’t possibly not be romantic about that. You know what I’m saying? O-

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